Thread:Ironwestie/@comment-120.22.3.27-20190204053030/@comment-101.184.90.209-20190204070815

Ironwestie wrote: Hi. First of all, this sounds very fishy. You, a complete stranger, am contacting me specifically about this "guy" who was apparently framed. I don't know you, and I don't know anything about this server you are talking about. I have nothing that suggests that this isn't some other ploy of MrMemely's to get him unbanned. How do I know that you aren't lying? Why do you care at all? Why haven't I heard of this before?

Second, I don't want this drama on my site. I have had multiple IP users who may or may not be the same group or person contact / harass me just because of something MrMemely posted. I don't care about whether or not MrMemely is indeed the same person who constantly asked to be unbanned (the fact that such a thing happened because of him is suspect enough for me). The fact is that I see no reason in allowing him to post here, because he has only caused trouble since arriving. The fact that he cares about being able to post a comment or forum post on here is itself says that he isn't interested in helping the wiki, only about expressing his opinion (which he can do in a myriad of other places).

Third, how do you know that "He really loves this wiki for what it is, and he still checks out the pages to this very day, even though he's banned. He really wishes the best for not only you, but this entire wiki, the discord, and the siiva team"? It's very suspicious how well you know about his situation, even if you heard about it second-hand. MrMemely has a track record of using other accounts to harass people to get him unbanned, and I have no reason to believe you just happened to be a part of this server. I will not tolerate such behavior.

As I've said before, the best thing MrMemely can do is to respect his ban. A ban from this wiki doesn't ban you from appreciating the channel, reading the wiki, or helping out in other ways. It shouldn't matter whether his ban is for a year or for the indefinite future. I would have kept it to a year if not for the harassment.

The fact that I am constantly receiving news about this is itself contrary to "heartfelt" and "honest". It appears that he does not respect me or my decision, because he refuses to stop pestering me or sending people here to complain about it. I don't want to hear about this anymore. Stop. Messaging. Me. Hi, I went through the situation, and I've come to a conclusion; he's innocent.

The harassment isn't his fault. If there were trolls that happened to go apon a user and witchhunt/harass them, it isn't the user's fault, that's not how it works. As a moderator for some discord servers, I know, if there is a raid going on, and they are talking about some guy, I don't automatically go "Oh, this guy is responsable, gotta ban them for life!", that's not how it works. Keemstar once raided a twitch stream because he was bored, and the raiders mentioned pewdiepie. Is it Keemstar's or Pewdiepies fault?

I understand you don't want drama, but don't refer to it as "your site". Just because you're a mod doesn't mean you can do anything you want. The owner of this site is the co-owner of siivagunner, it's his site, not yours. If you find someone you don't like, don't ban them. As so far as I've researched, he didn't cause trouble "since arriving". He was innocent until the fourm post, don't act like he's satan.

As for your third point, it's possible he went into extroudinary detail into it, which I believe. I've done simular things with reports.

Your response of "respecting his ban and not posting or contacting anyone" is bad. Respecting your ban means no ban evation, he never did that. Trolls decided to go as him and cause trouble to get him permabanned, which worked. Remember: don't feed the trolls. I recommend checking the IP for all of them, all of them are different.

Overall: I think I agree with OP. He should be unbanned for a year, what he did originally was horrible, but the "harassment" isn't his fault. Like the keemstar raid, do you blame Keem or blame Pewdiepie?