Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-29980193-20200423165001/@comment-71.161.223.100-20200428225200

BartoszMikMik wrote: TonyExists wrote: Welp since thread died, might as well make my philosophy for KFAD public

-If a character uses nostalgia from things popular in the community, don't fucking do it. I thought people would've learned from Hypercam but apparently I'm wrong

-NEVER make straight up reps for things that people want, as it leaves massive bias. IM FUCKING TALKING ABOUT YOU, NIEL

-If a character and or subgenre of character is overused. At least try something unique with it, the same reason I'm so hesitant with animation reps

-Just because a source can be there, doesn't mean it should. As it clutters things

-Controversial matters aren't inherently a bad thing. As long as the character is either played up or played neutral. Also give them a good source list just in case

-If you decided you want a rep of something, think it out first. Don't just make obvious choices for the character, unless it is underrepresented  (Example of the former: Mash-up Mayhem's Arin Hanson, TFA's Half Human, Half Machine) here is the thing tony

half human half machine originally did not get all of neil

they just got lemon demon stuff instead of neil sources

but someone thought it was a good idea to add neil stuff to their sources as a buff Exact inverse with Fighting Funny Team.

They only started out with What and relevant Neil tracks (aka a Neil Cicierega sourcelist) and then we added Lemon Demon as a buff.

Also yeah, let's take a look at the most overused source frequently mentioned and complained about here, as I've recently found yet another Neil rep.

Namely, the ones Tony complained about a lot, Lemon Demon and Neil Cicierega reps and let's compare and contrast differences. such as how sources can reflect the overall nature and design philosophy in source picks for different tournaments.

Neil Cicierega:

Neil himself in Mashup Week is what started everything, and as such only had sources directly related to himself, i.e. Neil Cicierega songs, Lemon Demon songs, and songs frequently used by him like One Week or All Star. This reflects how overall, Mashup Week contestants had much smaller sources that were usually directly related to themselves such as Lord Farquaad's entire source list consisting of only Shrek music, and Barkley's entire source list was just basketball sources.

This was then followed by us, with Fighting Funny Team, who's sources reflect their meme/joke character status, but also the more diverse source lists for King for a New Dawn usually being based around aspects of characters like Jack Bros. having demon sources and Off the Hook's new sources being based around ink and newer Nintendo IPs. In this way it perfectly represents them being a combination of Neil Cicierega merch and the Funny 7 by having clothing and numbers related sources, which then only makes them a Neil character by proxy of having his art on the shirt by way of the What - Mashup Week source, which then amplifies their joke status and connection to Neil. However, due to being a spiritual successor to King for Another Day and thus having to contend against characters who already have formidible sources.

Next we have Half Man, Half Machine from Temporart Flight Attendant, while at first glance it may seem like they have a pretty baseline amount of sources, their sources reflect the combination of the characters, as TFA is all about combining odd sources into characters like John Madden having space, text-to-speech AND sports related sources. While their sources are pretty baseline compared to other competitors (like King Slimes generic battle theme, blue, royal and ninja sources) unlike the others it's good enough to not really need anything beyond a slight buff with the 80s and 90s arcade sources, which still fit the characters due to Cabinet Man being... well an arcade cabinet, and Springtrap and William Afton are both the same as the Purple Guy, who only shows up in 80s-styled minigames in the series, again proving there's a bit more ideas put into them then you'd think, they could have just picked FNaF and Lemon Demon sources and called it a day. Then they decided to give them only a slight revamp and added other Neil content probably just simply for a Wow Wow duel rip with Comedy & Tragedy, they were really fine before hand and it fit the characters better.

Finally we have Aimkid from Repost Reprise, a slightly-off-brand meme tournament with a rather... large cast of characters. Aimkid's sources are yet again ones that fit the character, like many other RR characters, having not only purely Lemon Demon only sources, but also anything else Aimkid has used as well as animation meme sources. Despite it's large roster, Repost Reprise seems to be somewat inbetween Mashup Week and Temporary Flight Attendent in terms of following characters, it doesn't give characters very overly specific sources like Dio, making every contestant unpowered outside of the tournament but doesn't overload things and make many different but all related sources like Zalgar, making things very hard to choose due to every contestant being diverse.