Board Thread:Fun and Games/@comment-39305300-20200208170324/@comment-71.161.223.96-20200208173736

Repost from previous thread since I was last comment and thus nobody will see it and it's all important:

Opinions on Johnny's opinions:

Literrally nobody had a problem with Clown Crowd before you showed up Johnny, and those are all weak buffs. I may be a bit confrontational about it, but it was all my idea in the first place and like four people agreed with it and had only minor backlash until you and Mr. E showed up THEN it was suddenly a major problem all of a sudden, how many damn times do I have to say that that side of 4chan will be ignored mostly. Piccolo is still a doctor, that's literally where I got the idea from, he prescribes honkpills now I made a big-ass backstory for him and everything that if you keep this up I'll just have to go find again.

Agreed on the joke characters. That's why I'm downvoting LORD HELIX and ATV in favor of Red. The Dank Maymay Team has good sources though, they're a dejokized version so I really wouldn't count them and instead count them as a Beta Mix character same as Grandpa. Frosted Freaks isn't really a joke character either, just because it's based off cereal and funi fnaf doesn't mean they're meant to be a joke character, The Cookie. I can understand though, I'm in favor of removing it for a better browser games rep if it's continued existence will be a problem, which again wasn't one until new people came in. Also too much overlap with Mecha HOBaRT.

While Generic Swordfighter wasn't my idea, I'm heavily in favor of him. The only reason there's conflict is over the design, which is my fault, I believe either Tony or Sakura, probably Sakura had a much more unique idea for GSF involving him/her switching between voices and incorporating a lot of anime, Fire Emblem and Smash design jokes, but I found Guy off Google Images and everybody just went with my idea.

Yeah, he was kind of a 'throw it in' because we couldn't think of any other way to buff Jazz Cats, which is fine, they're original characters of SiIva's anyway so not really much can be done for them. They'll be the Off the Hook of this.

Mentioned my thoughts on The Cookie. above, if it's needed, then we can replace it with anotherr mobile games/browser games/Newgrounds/Flash rep.

Frosted Freaks was Tony's idea, it's based on the fact both have cereals, both were humanoid animals, and everybody was making a lot of furry jokes very early on in the development of this when I hadn't joined yet.

There is no Backroom pick, it was originally a SiIvaCord pick, but we removed that due to Sakura claiming the SiIvaCord is toxic, which I don't doubt. Everything else is pretty cut-and-dry, base it off fanart you see, music you want to hear more of, something you saw in another parody, characters from the Bean leak roster, Beta Mix or a list of character ideas from ages back Sakura found on Reddit, or just a random idea you have. The only executive picks allowed are from Sakura, Elch and Tony and they've already been chosen. (Linne, 2016 Cartoons [which only have just a picture of Lincoln for the same reason the team-ups like Hosts with the Most only have one picture], and Krist Novoselic respectively)

Agreed, Chip Skylark was the last one before we banned them and I argued against his inclusion. The Loud House team I can't do anything about since it was all Elch's idea, it can be modified though so the rest of us like it better.

Elch tried to make Shadow not overlap with Robotnik by aside from Sonic Boom, focusing on stuff related to Shadow as a character, the edgy and anti-hero rips.

Good idea, but Neil himself is entirely banned due to being overpowered. And making him NOT focused on Neil doesn't make sense, giving him stuff related to another parody is also overpowered.

Again, my fault, I suggested El chavo since El chavo de ocho is majorly popular in Latin America, we needed a Latin rep and Elch himself didn't suggest anything. I'm not Latin so he was my best pick, Elch instantly latched onto the idea and improved it with the costumes so thus we got Kicked Fireball's current state.

Extra care was taken to make Dank Maymay Team not to overlap by having Robotnik keep the same Sonic restriction he had in King for Another Day, removing Crash from HOBaRT to compensate for the mecha buffs it gets, and most of the overlap is in the 2015-2019 memes, which I personally suggested to be nerfed to 2015-2016, and some of the stuff like Buff Shaggy and Baby Yoda that overlaps I didn't put, Sakura did. (that and the nightcore music which overlaps with generic swordfighter)

Yes, gives more variety as everyone here will just come up with a certain style of requests, those sources were added to beef up ideas, long as the wiki parody owners were fine with it, and pre-existing fanart was to simulate Art Team picks.

True, but again she wasn't my pick and I had no involvement, notice how in Princess Tomato's source list (a character requested by me) I specifically made sure to exclude things in the Hudon Soft rips that overlapped majorly, being early Mario Party titles and a lot of Pokemon spin-offs, which are Adam's thing, I'll need to do research into Arc Systems to find, target and remove more overlaps, but it's mostly nitpicky as overlaps can be fusion rips.

Doesn't have to be. Will and Billy are together thematically because of Wild Wild West and Old Town Road, it makes sense for their sources. Remember how Dancing Alien Team really didn't have anything in common in terms of sources save for the fact they're aliens and that's why Howard was split off from them in Kfad2, speaking of which, I could make the same arguement you make for Billy Ray Cyrus being paired with Will as Howard the Alien being paired with Will, what does Will REALLY have to do with Howard the Alien as a meme or Lil Nas X? Literally nothing, but due to Men in Black, they were paired together thematically.

True, Rhythm Masters' were just so damn stronk already in sauces that that was literally all we could think of without them being overpowered or entirely redesigned. Simliar to Off the Hook literally only getting a single song as a buff in King for Another Day, yes?

MissingNo. is banned due to already getting a prize, Phoenix though has less justification. We haven't put a Pokemon rep in yet because we're still debating on how to make a mainseries Pokemon rep without giving them literally the entire franchise since that's extremely overpowered. I mean considering Dedede gets literally all of Kirby we technically could, but that's would pretty much give them a sweeping victory. Hence Molly & Entei, Scottish Trainer (poll character), and LORD HELIX/ATV/Red all being given and pondered as alternatives.

I don't really know, it's mostly just there since Howard is actually a music.lly meme, people back in the day just shoved him in Vine Compilations anyway.

Exactly, probably mostly due to Sakura being project leader and also having personal bias for Danganronpa.

Well I don't really know anything about Moneybags, I agree that the team-up was kinda random, but since it was made when I had just actually managed to find this thread it was thus made without my input and needs a revamp since it was only Sakura, Bartosz, Elch and Tony here before.

1. Frosted Freaks, true, remove cereal from Mecha HOBaRT 2. True, The Cookie. either needs a revamp or removal, most likely removal and replacement 3. I specifically removed vegetable source from their sources, look at them, they were never there in the first place. Just because they're a reference to 'team with a really long name that has something to do with vegetables' from the Bean leak doesn't mean they actually have to have them, they're more than strong enough on their own. 4. Oh yeah the Reeses' Rap, well that was kinda ignored in KfAD so it's ignored here.

Yeah true, didn't think about Frosted Freaks when he was put in, they get non-RPGMaker stuff, but the surreal horror stuff was kind of a makeup for the fact he couldn't have ghost rips due to Bus 800, they can be removed but it makes his sourcelist pretty small. (but still powerful RPGMaker is still a very broad source)

Nope flintsone ban

True. Again, we are kinda just throwing ideas at the wall, Aaran Ryan could be replaced with Disco Kid to still keep the NES Punch-Out-Super Punch Out-Wii Punch-Out theme and change their sauces.

I was going to say that actually, and technically Grandpa as well due to decorating your igloo being a large part of the game.

Well technically it isn't, it's Icelandic actually, that's like saying Johnny Test has Cartoon Network. And I was actually considering banning We Are Number One for the same reasons Etika can't make an appearance. I didn't though and thus was have a problem. (Also to respond to Elch, yes, for the second time Miraculous Ladybug first appearance in English was on Nickelodeon before they cancelled it and it moved to Netflix instead, so yes it is a Nick show technically, but also not due to being French, like LazyTown isn't due to being Icelandic and Johnny due to being Canadian, they all technically first premiered on networks in their home countries and thus not Nick/CN)

Definitelly not YouTube in general, but yeah. It's kinda like Will's Fesh Pince songs from the original King for a Day, that isn't really a musical source, but still makes sense for the character to have. More like maybe remixes of YouTube ads, plus the Fortnite and Raid: Shadow Legends OSTs technically count.